Tacticas de combate aereo BVR

[Doctor Muerte]

Buenos dias a todos, he estado buscando en el foro algun post que hable del tema de las TACTICAS DE COMBATE AEREO BVR y no he encontrado nada :roll: . Tambien la documentacion de la Academia es un poco escasa en este aspecto :cry: ; sin embargo el examen del modulo AA por lo que he podido observar esta mas relacionado con plantear una buena tactica y llevarla a cabo como lider que otra cosa :flyer: . Tambien he intentado buscar documentacion en internet que tuviera estas caracteristicas: ni muy extensa ni escasa, clara a la vez que valida....bien....no he encontrado nada que satisfaciera mi curiosidad. Agradeceria una clase magistral sobre este tema o que algun alma caritativa nos ofreciera un documento que recogiera estas tacticas o algunas de ellas :crack: :crack: :crack: . De antemano gracias. :pobre: :pobre:

[Revientor]

El AA es impredecible... por mucho que sepas de tácticas, hacer pinzas, verticales horizontales, nucleares... volara distintas alturas para dificultar al radar enemigo... todo son idealismos cuando lees en libros... lo único que te sirve es tu experiencia personal al sentir y vivir todas las situaciones posibles pero bueno... no esta de mas saber algo de teoría... pero se queda en eso.. teoría...

[3Balls]

Pufff Rafita... pides algo maravillosamente complicado... Hay libros... manuales... todo de pago o confidencial....

 

Aunque me extraña que no encuentres nada de nada.... Busca "BVR tactics" o cosas asi... Busca...busca que hay de tooodo por ahi suelto!!!!!

 

Te copy/pasteo una pequeña introducción del super-carismático-a-la-par-que-simpático-y-sobre-todo-didáctico KRAUSE, que se marca unos video-tutoriales kojonudos (con permiso de los de REVI!! :crack: :crack: )...aunque en Igles.

 

Como digo, se que está en Ingles... pero os creo con recursos suficientes para superar la "language barrier" y sacar probecho de esta super-mini-iniciación muy muy básica.... Además, casi cualquier cosa que puedas encontrar, seguramente va a estar en Ingles.

 

Basic Concepts

 

•The flight leader's job is to lead the 1st element, sort targets, navigate/maneuver the flight and assign shooters.

•You don't shoot until told to do so EXCEPT when threatened by a confirmed hostile aircraft.

•The 2nd element leader's job is to take over if the flight leader dies, lead the 2nd element and perform the flight leader's job when he is defensive.

•The wingmen's jobs are to remain in formation (specifically stay with their wingman AT ALL TIMES) and protect the respective element leaders, as well as to fire at threatening or sorted targets.

•Brevity (using the above terminology) is extremely important, if you don't you will not be able to communicate complex information quick enough. You shouldn't have to say "I don't think I see that on my RWR", it should be "falcon 12 naked." If you think its stupid or just role playing time yourself trying to say the same amount of information using everyday language - you will find its impossible.

•TO ensure maximum security only one element should be offensive at a time while the other element is supporting. There are exceptions to this (such as ambushing a enemy flight) but its a sound principle and rule of thumb.

 

•An excellent strategy to implement this basic tactic is called a "grinder" - both elements split up, separated by some miles and then engage/defend in alternating bounds. A good formation to accomplish this is a box, in which element 1 is spread, followed by a 10+ mile gap and then element 2 in spread behind them.

•This also applies to within an individual element - one wingman should be attacking while the other supports.

 

 

•Only the flight leader declares using AWACS.

•All contacts should be declared with AWACS when performing BVR (beyond visual range) engagements (q on keyboard, and then 2).

•Do not fire an AIM-120 into a furball because you can kill friendlies, get PID on all targets within 20 miles of friendlies. In other words if you see a bunch of friendlies on your RWR, mixed with enemy nails, you MUST get PID before engaging.

•Use the datalink for situational awareness and assigning sorted targets. You can also assign stuff to the flight lead that you think might be hostile, rather than saying anything.

•When involved in a package operation, calls should be made on broadcast that you (The flight lead) are engaging, have contact, or defending an enemy or suspected enemy group.

•All members of a package should broadcast launches, "fox 3, bullseye 064 for 43" - this ensures that no one wastes missiles on the same target and aids situational awareness.

•ACM is important for individual defense and offense, but tactics governs group fights.

 

Engaging An Enemy Group

 

•Find an enemy group by using AWACS, detecting nose hot contacts on FCR and by interpreting RWR nails.

 

•Contacts which are nose hot and approaching with a large degree of closure (slam) are probably hostile. Declare these.

•Correspond/interpret the FCR to the RWR.

 

 

•At BVR (beyond visual range) ranges the flight lead should try his best to first survey the group, then come up with an attack plan based on a few factors:

 

•Time/Speed: How fast you are closing on the contact group.

•Space: How much range is between the shooters and the contact group.

•Threats: The behavior and type of the contact group. A enemy group which was hot then suddenly goes cold without an apparent reason may not be cowards, they may be drawing you into a SAM ambush. In such a case, added room between elements and speed is key.

•Capabilities: Weapons the flight has, skills of the pilots, contingencies and "actions on"

•Formation: An enemy group in spread is much more dangerous than an enemy group in trail in a merge (head on) situation.

 

 

•An ideal situation is PID of an enemy group at 30+ miles. This gives the flight lead enough time to sort out all the targets. The flight lead should go through every contact and assign them verbally and by using the datalink buttons on the right side of the FCR.

•The flight lead will declare which element is offensive, and which is supporting.

•The offensive element will engage until threatened (mig 29 about to go lethal on RWR for instance, or pop up group from another direction etc) , then go defensive.

•The support element will engage until threatened, then go defensive.

•The element which was originally offensive will now support as the other element goes defensive.

•The flight lead will constantly keep in mind the relation of threats to his flight, maintain a distance by which he can withdraw his flight and maintain cohesion of formation.

•If the bandits are too close for the lead to sort them all out, the 2nd element leader should sort while the lead element engages.

•The flight lead should keep giving maneuver orders to gain a positional advantage on enemy contacts - and keep communicating with the 2nd element leader.

•Basics of support: fly in loose formation with the aircraft you are supporting and ensure the surrounding contacts, terrain or air defenses do not threaten the engaging aircraft. My favorite tactic is to fly high cover, which involves:

 

•Breaking high and creating some distance between the supported aircraft and yourself (3000 feet-2 miles). Technically doing a "lag pursuit" on your wingman.

•Visually tracking the supported aircraft and looking for launches, AAA, conflicting terrain and other threats

•Glancing at radar and looking for threatening contacts, engaging them if need be

•Following the lead, taking the shot if he overshoots the target or otherwise requests for you to take it out (a hung store/malfunction etc)

•Rejoining on the lead's wing when the target is killed

 

 

 

Defending An Enemy Group

 

•When an enemy group attacks your flight, elements should split and one element should maneuver to establish space and time to clear the other element.

•Constant communication is key, when an opening presents itself, utilize the other element to get the upper hand.

•A call of "element 1, strip left, element 2, strip right" is a simple way to accomplish this

•Always stay with and support your wingman, you should never be by yourself. There are situations in which there will be no way to safely defend yourself against a threat without exposing yourself significantly to danger (a mig-29 on your six in close range); you need a wingman to support you.

•Make sure you have a flares program activated when in a furball, migs like to shoot heaters.

•In a situation in which the lead element is ambushed, the first actions of the 2nd element should be to support and rescue the defending element - do so without orders.

 

[Doctor Muerte]

Gracias Revi y gracias 3Balls...he encontrado cosas pero quiza no lo que esperaba...pero es que claro pedia mucho...breve, conciso a la par que completo, grafico, de facil visualizacion.....he encontrado hasta libros enteros pero claro queria algo que me explicara las tacticas mas simples de manera sencilla :ok: ....

[Spartan]

Rafita lo que necesitas en una instrucción AA, te cojo de mañana en adelante, te aclararemos un montón de cosas!!

[Dardo]

Bravo por Rafita....

 

Asi, pidiendo cosas... que ya olemos el examen, y aquí nos exigen mucho (...como la academia de FAME...)....y hay que prepararse...

 

Bravo!!

 

:bravo: