Coordenadas E/W en BMS

[flyway]

Hey Joe, am also happy with the solution.

But just in case 4.33/ 4.34 , gets out with this issue solved, will POH coords be able to be reverted to a more correct positioning?

:birras:

[Joe Labrada]

Hey Joe, am also happy with the solution.

But just in case 4.33/ 4.34 , gets out with this issue solved, will POH coords be able to be reverted to a more correct positioning?

:birras:

 

 

Obviously. :wink:

[flyway]

Well, it seems 4.33 didn't bring any news here.

Right now am involved in the begining of producing our IAPs and have noticed a general shifting to the south (aprox. 0º36' / 36NM) and a huge shift to the West (2º07' / 127NM). Can it be corrected even without western coordinates not implemented?

Editado 20 de Noviembre del 2015 por flyway

[3Balls]

I think this is a projection issue... Fix one side, and will screw the other...

[flyway]

Understand that, but since falcon terrain is flat, could it be doable?

Is there a good matching with real coords at the center of theater?

[3Balls]

Joe is the men for that... I used his info to have TACVIEW ready for POH... but he have the knowledge of the conversion and coordinates tweak done for POH.

Cant help more than this, but I think it is not really doable.

[flyway]

Gracias, Revi por el aporte.

 

Si algún día se adapta BMS para poder gestionar longitudes negativas, volver a colocar las coodenadas anteriores en POH es muy sencillo.

Well, am only recalling this post from Joe, it seems to be very easy to move coords grid....

[3Balls]

Yep... IIRC is a matter of changing a few files... not a big deal if you know what files needs to be changed. All the rest is related to this references, so no sweat.

Joe knows for sure which files need to be changed. I have an idea, but will miss some for sure.

[flyway]

Copy 3Balls, thanks for your help dimming the light...

Editado 20 de Noviembre del 2015 por flyway

[Joe Labrada]

En efecto. Se abre Terrain Editor>Open Map Editor> Editar casillas:

 

-Longitud:   -17   (en realidad sólo hay que editar esta casilla que ahora mismo su valor es 0).

-Latitud:   25

 

Y Save Map File.

[3Balls]

Tambien habia que cambiar algo del weather,,, o para los cilcos solares o no se que rollos... puede ser?

[Viperdude]

Already did it in the last... I think

 

Weather.ini file:

TimeZone 1

Latitude 40

Longitude -4

 

Don't know if these coordinates are the exact ones, but I focused on Madrid.

 

Couldn't see any difference though...unless we change from 0 to 1 in falconbms.cfg the following line:

set g_bLocalEnvironmentalDate 0

 

With this line set to 1, sunrise is set to about 0730am and sunset to about 0600pm, if I'm not mistaken.

 

 

This is all I know for now.

Editado 20 de Noviembre del 2015 por Viperdude

[flyway]

Thanks Joe.

The correction that am purposing is;

Latitude grid shift down:

0º36` or 0.55º in decimal coords (believe this is how falcon handles it)

Longitude grid shift left (assuming West translated to East):

2º07` or 2.11º

 

Will do some testing later today.

Editado 21 de Noviembre del 2015 por flyway

[Joe Labrada]

Flyway, las Navaids de POH 0.8.0 toman como referencia las coordenadas actuales (Longitud:    0 y latitud:   25). Tomé esa decisión en marzo de 2014 después de confirma la existencia de ese bug  en BMS 4.32. Cambiar otra vez las latitudes y longitudes implicaría rehacer todo el trabajo de coordenadas GPS que constan en las Navaids.

 

BMS 4.33 no ha solucionado este bug y falcon sigue sin permitir coordenadas negativas. Lo más eficiente ahora mismo es dejar las coordenadas como están y realizar, como no, las correcciones de coordenadas cuando BMS permita coordenadas negativas.

[flyway]

Joe, understand your point and concerns. I could live with W/E bug, but Latitude could be readjusted to a more realistic position.

And believe me, redoing that NavAids table, is something very easy to do, and can assume myself for doing that.

Editado 21 de Noviembre del 2015 por flyway

[flyway]

Hi all,

Can you help me finding the coordinates of the corners of POH?

I mean cartezian coordinates... for the lower left corner and upper right corner... as believe these are the min and max ones.

Thank you.

[3Balls]

Use MC...IIRC it shows the coordinates on the map screen.

Or wait till late today. I'll take a look.

[flyway]

Copy 3Balls, have tried MC, but it still gives me alot of "out of memory" errors, korean map in the box, didn't get much confident on seeing the right coordinates...

Will wait for your feedback and also try myself again, later today.

Thank you.

Cheers.

[3Balls]

Top Right shows as 43,23.556N 025,13.424 E

Bottom Left 25N 000E

 

There could be a small error on this measures... but I don´t know for what are these coords needed... so I don´t know if the small error is a factor or not.

 

Keep it up!

[flyway]

Thank you very much 3Balls.

These will be required for the "Vortacs" implementing.

First will creat a tool for Cartezian <-> Falcon/Tile X/Y coords convertions.

How did you get these coords?

Believe that precision will sufice, but in any case... was it MC?

[flyway]

Well, tried to use again MC and believe this time could get same coords...

But have also found that theater is a little tilted, probably maching some deviations due to geoid adaptations, right?

[3Balls]

Yep distortion is there for sure.

 

MC it was.

[flyway]

So, as far as I could see, here what is happening in POH theater square;

Can you confirm?

Basically, it's a carteziam trapezium, with top/botton paralell lines and a very little shift at left (0.33' to East) and a bigger shift at right (5º 00.2' to East)...

Editado 28 de Octubre del 2016 por flyway

[3Balls]

Cannot tell, bro.

 

There is somewhere a post from Joe talking about this IIRC... on the days when we wanted to use Western coordinates.

 

I think he will have the data, but I'm not sure. Even trying to get some values to use them on TACEDIT were difficult. I came up with some values, but the distortion and errors are terrible.

 

Coordinates will be wrong in any case... I won't bother too much chasing precision coordinates.

[flyway]

...

 

There is somewhere a post from Joe talking about this IIRC... on the days when we wanted to use Western coordinates.

 

...

Isn't it, right this one, thread?

Although, cannot find any objective information on this issue...

 

Anyway, when I mention cartezian coordinates, am talking about falcon cartezian as opposed to the X/Y tiles ones... am not talking about geographic ones...

Editado 28 de Octubre del 2016 por flyway